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thanks, Nowick, of course, good question. Seems a case by case basis.

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thanks, Peter. And good association; found it: various versions, here are two of Lao Tzu: section 20 "Between "Oh, Certainly!," and "Definitely Not;" how much difference is there? Between beauty and ugliness, how great is the distinction?" and "Is there a difference between yes and no? Is there a difference between good and evil?"

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powerful and poetic! ...identifying the spiritual 'yes' and 'no' ... and clarifying how different it is from the superficial ...

I'm remembering something (I think from LaoTzu or Chuang Tzu) about having your yes and having your no... Can't find the quote...

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Thought provoking. More than no, and more than yes... what, then, to bring systemic change?

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